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Illegal immigrants would be barred from healthcare aid under Senate leaders proposal | Health |...

By LYNSI BURTON

Hearst Newspapers

WASHINGTON — In a bid to win support from fence-sitting moderate Democratic senators, the Senate leadership has included provisions in its healthcare proposal that would bar any aid to illegal immigrants and would restrict assistance to immigrants residing legally in the United States.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid needs the support of all 58 Democrats and both independent senators in a procedural showdown vote today on whether he can block a Republican filibuster that would kill the health bill.

The result: Moderate-to-conservative Democratic senators such as Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, along with independent Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, effectively have veto power over the bill.

Like the recently approved House version of healthcare reform, the Senate bill would deny federal subsidies to help undocumented immigrants buy insurance. But the Senate bill would also bar undocumented immigrants from participating in health insurance exchanges even if they pay full price with their own funds.

The Senate would also impose a five-year waiting period before legal immigrants who are not citizens could gain access to any federal health insurance subsidies.

The concessions to immigration critics have shaken Latino rights groups, who have strongly backed Democratic attempts to overhaul the American healthcare system.

"Diseases know no boundaries," said Elena Rios, president of the National Hispanic Medical Association. "The best idea would be to have everyone have healthcare."

Hispanics in the House — there are none in the Senate — are furious. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., calls the Senate provisions "mean-spirited" and "dehumanizing."

Some medical providers in cities like Houston contend that taxpayers would be the ultimate victim of any plan that keeps immigrants away from primary doctors and instead funnels them to public hospitals’ emergency rooms.

"Those problems are not going to go away" unless immigrants obtain access to primary-care physicians rather than using emergency rooms as a first resort, said David Lopez, CEO of the Harris County Hospital District. "I think it needs to be addressed now."

Texas has the highest number of uninsured immigrants in the U.S. Of the 6 million or so uninsured residents in Texas, about 1.5 million are not citizens, said Anne Dunkelberg, associate director of the Center for Public Policy Priorities in Austin.

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RED ALERT -- La Raza: "If the American people found out..."


"Suzanne", a female caller to Mark Levin's show on June 25th, revealed the ominous secret of the Democrat health care reform effort.

I want to tell you that last week I attended a conference on health care reform sponsored by La Raza. And I will tell you that what they had to say, Mark, is scarier than anything that's been said so far on the health care plan.

The kind of comments that were made and the notes that I took... they started the conference out by saying "America does not need health care reform, but Latino immigrants need health care reform."

And someone from Menendez' office [Ed.: Sen. Robert Menendez, D-NJ] promised that he would make sure that "the useless barriers of citizenship would not be in this bill" and that he would make sure that they would use keywords like "streamline"...

It was La Raza, the Childrens Defense Fund and Senator Menendez from New Jersey, a representative from his office...

...Yes [they said they would get free health care for illegal aliens], these are my notes, Mark. They actually got up and said "Latino children need health care more than whites". And then they would say things like "you must go out into your communities, use words like 'streamline', use phrases like 'all workers' and 'all families'," because they said -- and I quote -- "If the American people find out that this bill is about giving health care to non-citizens, they will rise up against it."

...One of the quotes they said was, "We want to make sure we take care of barriers like verification, but we can streamline programs to the more affluent" and, quote, "Useless treatments for the elderly can be gone because we don't need to spend money for people who are going to die anyway."

That's a direct quote from that meeting. They also said, "We are very concerned there will be an effort to include" the illegal immigrants in this argument, so "we must make sure that we focus this" to the American people that it's looking like we want "health care for everyone".

And they also said that 75% of the children who will be picked up in this will be non-citizens and that 44% of the uninsured are non-citizens and they can't possibly allow the American people to know this." [Ed: Oops!]

Menendez' office said that he's going to make sure that "a family of four that makes $66,000 a year or less will pay nothing at all for the new health care. And he was the one who said he was going to get rid of specifics like "citizenship status" and focus on, quote, "equity for all workers".

And he said he's going to make sure that the Latino immigrants are the focus of the health care reform.

And La Raza said if they get this, they don't even care about amnesty, because they've fixed it so thatone family member can apply for all extended family members. And... Mark, if you think we have a problem with illegal immigration now, wait 'til you see the borders when this thing gets passed.


"If the American people found out?"

Gee, what a surprise. A group that preaches racial superiority and divisiveness wants to enact a stealth illegal immigration bill -- not dissimilar to chain migration. The bill will reward illegal immigration to the direct detriment of all American taxpayers and especially the elderly.

Kind of puts Judge Sotomayor's membership in La Raza in a new light, doesn't it?

Groups like La Raza encourage the Balkanization of America. They promote mutually hostile political groups that do not form a "melting pot", that do not utilize a common language, and that do not share the principles of America's founding.

Fifty years from now, if La Raza gets its way, America will look more like Yugoslavia in 1993 than America.

 

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Latino groups push Congress for health coverage for illegal immigrants - The Denver Post

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Latino groups push Congress for health coverage for illegal immigrants

By Lynsi Burton
Hearst Newspapers

WASHINGTON — Latino advocacy groups are ramping up pressure on Congress to expand health coverage for immigrants as the lawmakers grapple with historic health-reform legislation.

Activists and health-policy experts who support greater immigrant coverage are concentrating their efforts on the Senate, which is expected to bar illegal immigrants from participating in health insurance exchanges, as stipulated in the Senate Finance Committee's bill, even if they pay with their own funds and no federal subsidies.

The House voted last weekend to deny federal subsidies to help illegal immigrants buy insurance but allow them to buy health insurance from government-created insurance exchanges.

The Senate Democratic leadership is working to merge two bills before bringing the legislation to the floor for debate.

Senate may be harder sell

However, the major Senate bill — the one written by the Senate Finance Committee — goes further than the House bill and bars illegal immigrants from obtaining health insurance with their own money at insurance exchanges.

"We do not see the same investment (in immigrants) in the Senate, and I think that will be a major component in the outreach by many other Latino organizations," said Jennifer Ng'andu, deputy director of health policy at National Council de La Raza, which lobbies Congress to make insurance accessible to immigrants.

Steven Wallace, associate director of the UCLA Center for Health Policy Research, said he doubts that the final Senate bill would go beyond the House measure.

"My hope is the Senate is a little more enlightened, but my guess is they'll come up with more punitive measures than the House," Wallace said.

Rep. Michael Honda, D-Calif., who pressed the House leadership to ensure that undocumented immigrants could still purchase insurance at full price, argued that including immigrants would help reduce overall health care costs for everyone.

There are an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., according to the Migration Policy Institute, a pro-immigration think tank. They make up 15 percent of the country's total uninsured population, the institute says.

Elena Rios, president of the National Hispanic Medical Association, said Latinos have the highest proportion of uninsured people.

"Diseases know no boundaries," she said. "The best idea would be to have everyone have health care."

Immigration, health care ties

But health-policy experts say that regardless of cost analyses, covering illegal immigrants will remain a political problem for lawmakers who want to look tough on immigration.

Lawmakers' hypersensitivity to immigration makes health care reform "more complicated and less effective," Wallace said.

Health insurance coverage for illegal immigrants has been a debate for a long time, but it attracted national attention in September when Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., shouted "You lie!" after President Barack Obama — speaking to a joint session of Congress — promised that health care reforms "would not apply to those who are here illegally."

The Wilson outburst "illustrated how this issue has moved to the forefront," said Dan Stein, president of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which supports immigration limitations. "Public mood for lavish public spending for people who have no right to be in the country has ended."


 

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CNSNews.com - Illegal Immigrants Account for $10.7 Billion of Nation’s Health Care Costs, Data Show



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(CNSNews.com) – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said that “illegal immigrants are not covered” in the health care reform legislation that is now working its way through House committees. But when asked about illegal immigrants who go to public hospitals for care, Pelosi told CNN’s State of the Nation on Sunday the law requires that they be treated.

  The cost of treating illegal aliens amounts to nearly $11 billion a year, according to calculations done by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a non-profit group that opposes illegal immigration. And that cost is not expected to go away if a health insurance reform bill becomes law.

  “If you’re in this country illegally, should you be able to get health care?” CNN’s John King asked Pelosi. “No, illegal immigrants are not covered by this plan,” she replied.

  “And so what happens to a public hospital then, if they walk into the emergency room? The hospital I was at this week, they said, you know, they do 6,000 births a year there and 70 percent of them are for undocumented [patients],” said King.

  “I don’t know about that,” said Pelosi. “But I do know that the law requires that if somebody comes in off the street and needs care, that is extended. What we see in this legislation is that people will have access to affordable health care, and it will diminish the number of people going into those private, public hospitals in the manner in which you described.”
 
According to FAIR’s Director of Special Projects Jack Martin, illegal immigrants cost federal and state governments an estimated $10.7 billion a year in health care spending. The numbers are contained in a report that FAIR plans to publish in the near future.

  “The numbers that I’ve been running come up to a total of $10.7 billion a year,” Martin told CNSNews.com. Those costs include the cost of so-called “anchor babies” – babies born to illegal immigrant parents in U.S. hospitals, almost always at taxpayers’ expense.

  Martin said that he included this cost in his estimate because while the newborns are technically U.S. citizens, taxpayers would never have had to pay their mothers’ medical bills had they not illegally entered the country.

  “If the illegal immigrants were prevented from coming into the country or were encouraged to leave the country, that cost would disappear,” said Martin. “Emergency medical care for the delivery of children is the biggest [cost].”

  Each anchor baby costs taxpayers an estimated $10,000 each on average, Martin said. These costs are usually paid through Medicaid, the federal program designed to aid America’s poor.

  “It’s the same [cost] as any other Medicaid birth, it’s the delivery expenses that average in the neighborhood of about $10,000 per delivery,” he said.

  Emergency room care for adults is another “significant” part of illegals’ overall burden, Martin said, one that is primarily borne by states, which subsidize the hospitals whose emergency rooms must treat illegal immigrants, no matter how minor their illness might be.

  “It’s a fairly significant contribution,” Martin said, “it comes out of the pocket of the states for the most part because of the fact that it is not covered by Medicaid. The federal government has had a program of partial reimbursement of those expenses but that hasn’t been renewed [by this Congress]. It didn’t begin to cover those expenses [anyway].”

  That $10.7 billion is not spread evenly throughout the country, Martin explained, but is borne primarily by states with high populations of illegal aliens -- states such as California, Texas, and Florida.

  “In terms of locations, it basically flows with where the largest concentration of illegal immigrants are,” said Martin. “For example, California is the largest and just within the state – not including federal monies – I get that [cost] at $1.6 billion per year.”

  In fact, state governments bear the heaviest burden for subsidizing the health care of illegal immigrants. Martin said he calculated that, all told, states pay $6.9 billion per year to care for their illegal immigrant populations.

  “The estimates of the costs that are paid by the states in total run to about $6.9 billion,” he said. “The difference between that and the over $10 billion figure is the amount that is paid out of federal funds.”

  Martin’s figures are similar to those reported in a 2004 study published by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), which showed that illegals accounted for $6.4 billion of federal health care spending – the CIS study did not examine states expenditures.

  The CIS study did include federal programs for which illegal immigrants are legally barred, such as Medicaid. However, federal funds still flowed their way due to the fact that illegal immigrant parents gain access to federal welfare and health care benefits through their U.S.-born children.

  According to the CIS study, illegals accounted for 13.1 percent of all federal costs of covering the uninsured in 2004, an estimated $2.2 billion per year. Seventeen percent of households headed by an illegal immigrant were using Medicaid, accounting for 1.7 percent of all Medicaid recipients.

  These trends look to continue if President Obama gets his way on health care reform, Martin said, because the legislation currently making its way through Congress would leave “very large” loopholes, loopholes that are not likely to be closed.

  “The current health care bill is looking as if it is leaving a very large loophole for medical coverage being provided to illegal aliens,” Martin said.

  “There’s one provision that says they won’t be eligible, but the current legislation as it’s being written does not establish any system of verification as to whether or not a person is legal or illegal.”


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